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My iMesa idea is...

Make Mesa Community College a 4 year University and add research campuses downtown and at Gateway.

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    James GiffordJames Gifford shared this idea  ·   ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

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      • Theresa S.Theresa S. commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Personally I think we should keep MCC as a 2 yr college--it's affordable, flexible schedules and a foundation for recent high school graduates. Keep it simple not overdo!

      • John OgdenJohn Ogden commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        The cost for attending MCC is reasonably affordable. If it turns into a $ year college the tuition will also increase. I for one am not ready for that.

      • AnonymousAnonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Kathy is right. A four year university would revitalize the Fiesta mall area. It should follow grand canyons example, but on the public side. Could provide some medical trainning or degrees due to "Desert Sam" next door.

      • Kathy Kathy commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        MCC could follow the concepts of Grand Canyon and be an intimate 4 year school. ASU and U of A have grown so large some young people are eaten up by the size. Small businesses would grow again if there was a need in the area to service a college community and with all the apartments in the area there would be plenty of housing.

      • Jeff GreenJeff Green commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        They can always make another Community College. But what about a University that draws an out of state community into Mesa. I'm not sure if this is the best rout but MCC currently is in a prime location (Right off of the freeway) and a university would grow the consumer pop. greatly because of all the disposable income students have.

      • SaraSara commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Mesa Community College needs to stay a CC. It is one of the few affordable education options in our society. Having attended MCC in the past, their professors are very professional, knowledgeable, and supportive. If you want a 4 year university, attend ASU @ Williams.

      • Patrick DockensPatrick Dockens commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Though there may be a need for a 4-year university in Mesa, there is also a need for a community college and MCC fits that bill nicely!

      • David YauchDavid Yauch commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I don't think simply making all of MCC as it currently stands into a 4-year university is a fully developed plan. The final plan would need to account for the need for remedial/non-academic courses. I don't think this is an unsurmountable or even particularly difficult issue.

      • Sanjeev RamchandraSanjeev Ramchandra commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        If MCC were to become a 4-year university, it couldn't offer the level of remedial & other non-acaedmic courses that it does now and its mission would fundamentally change as a result.

      • David YauchDavid Yauch commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        MCC isn't anywhere close to running out of room... It is largely a one-story campus which could easily be built upwards if need be. It also has a lot of vacant retail nearby which could be purchased by the college just as ASU has done over several decades in surrounding areas in Tempe.

      • wowerwower commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        wower
        I think NAU, ASU and UA should offer full degree programs at all community colleges. Community colleges and state universities recieve public funds, I dont understand why ASU, NAU and UA need to offer MBA's in a private building. its a waste of money. Use the resources we have such as community college building. A Classroom is a Classroom. I dont think Community colleges should go by itself and start offering 4 yr degrees or Polytech needs to be seperated out.. the reason being it will lose its funding and its accreditation. Most Engineering companies won't even hire people or pay less to people who graduate from non abet schools, especially boeing, general dynamics, lockheed and such.. no matter how smart they maybe.. there is a monopoly in abet accreditation and engineers at these companies seem to terrorized abet grads with development path. However State funded schools and federal funded loan recieving schools need to participate and offer full degree programs at community colleges where they dont have a campus and all ASU campus need to offer mba and phds for non traditional students (evening classes) especially polytechnic which is so underserved between mesa, gilbert and queen creek close to 750,000 people i bet you there is atleast 1000 people who would love to do their mba's and phd at that campus.

      • Sanjeev RamchandraSanjeev Ramchandra commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        MCC is already running out of room and may not have enough space to offfer 4-year degrees. Poly campus needs to expand as its current programs are limited since ASU decimated that campus a couple of years ago due to budget cuts and to reduce competition with its main campus in Tempe.

      • David YauchDavid Yauch commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I like this idea for Mesa because making MCC a 4-year college would create a demand for student housing in the area. Students living in this area would help business at Fiesta Mall and the surrounding businesses, and hopefully dorms could be built in areas that are currently failed retail.

        Transforming Poly alone isn't going to increase the supply of education in Mesa. It already is a university campus with research programs. Making MCC a 4 year college initially focusing on popular degrees will allow Mesa residents to purse a 4 year degree without trekking to ASU and will open up degrees not currently taught at Poly. A pre-med program to feed students to AT Still and a BSN program to feed highly-trained nurses to Banner Desert would be some cool options.

      • Sanjeev RamchandraSanjeev Ramchandra commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        How about instead transforming the ASU Polytechnic campus into a separate, free-standing state university?

        Click on the link below to view my website which advocates restructuring the Arizona University System to provide greater accessibility, affordability, and accountability to a public university education for many more Arizonans while breaking-up the ASU monopoly within Greater Phoenix.

        My plan does this by merging the ASU West & Polytechnic campuses into an independent, "medium-cost", and moderate research state university that is then housed at the Polytechnic campus location while the West campus then transforms itself into an independent, "low-cost", and non-research state university.

        Click (or copy and paste) the link below to view my strategic plan for the details of my university system restructuring plan:

        http://PSUandAzTech.blogspot.com

      • JamieTJamieT commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Those research campuses would dovetail nicely with business incubators.

      • JoeJoe commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        What Mesa community school should do is partner up with a univ and add programs so ppl can complete 4 yr school at a community college. ASU< NAU or UA can certainly do that like other states do.. if they feel they are up there doesnt care about educating their local communities then mesa community should look further and partner up with other private institutions such as carnegie mellon and so forth.

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